tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post6028882941466268167..comments2024-01-27T00:02:27.743-05:00Comments on うたわれるもの: Kusoru wins UMVC3 at Final Round XVSibbyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08807272028402375596noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-17182071984615560672012-12-16T22:50:29.234-05:002012-12-16T22:50:29.234-05:00Wow, is this ever troll city in here. Everyone is...Wow, is this ever troll city in here. Everyone is getting at everyone else, if your not trolling the OP by saying he's a Weeaboo and whatnot your trolling the people who took an article explaining a culture clash that just occurred too seriously due to some rather blatant text.<br /><br />First point I felt needed to be mentioned, everyone at FR was pretty excited about Kusoru's presence. Although you could see the frustration of some of the players getting beat by an obvious strategy(a.k.a. Fire kick into Log Trap cross-over shenanigans are done multiple times to multiple players, and it just proved a little hard to ride around), they were happy to shake hands and be happy for the guy. PR balrog got nearly shoved out of his chair at the culminating match, and he was HAPPY to get up and shake the guys hand. He made a point to wait until his friends cheering died down to do it.<br /><br />Players like Combofiend, Yipes, and PR Rog(just mentioning a few) obviously love this game, and push hard to be better at it. It excites such players to encounter new tech from unseen characters. That is why Yipes and Combofiend use Dr. Strange pretty awesome now. I would not be shocked if we see some more RR tech from what Kusoru dished out. He is an eye openning player, playing to odd strategies, avoiding aggressive pushes, and staying defensive.<br /><br />It's an absolute fact that such overlooked characters can clean up in the tournament scene, but this is true across the board. I've watched some freaky Dan players get pretty far along in tournaments just because he's so goofy that people didn't expect him to blow up at them. I've seen Zappa win a local tournament because all the tournament GG players were busy practicing their Ky game.<br /><br />Second point: I admire people who can take unproven characters and make them tournament grade. Those characters have the natural advantage of doing the unexpected, and the unexpected leads to wins, sometimes big majors. Kusoru is good enough to occasionally do that, and that is WHY he's a Kusoge God. He enjoys finding the nooks and crannies of the games he plays and showing off things he's discovered, and I love him for it. On the other hand I think it's pretty shitty to tauntingly throw that in the face of players who possibly love the game just as much. Do you think some top players don't occasionally get good with crappy characters? You don't think that one of the well knowns I brought up before doesn't play with Phoenix Wright in their spare time? There is a big difference between playing, and discovering, and you can play for a long time and not discover that cohesion. Kusoru sees such cohesion more naturally, and this is part of why he's so awesome.<br /><br />Third point. I think everyone gets this is a game yes? no rabid foaming needs to happen here, yes?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01176265566460845018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-79975050872819481002012-08-04T16:25:04.592-04:002012-08-04T16:25:04.592-04:00This blog sucks bahdd..,,,This blog sucks bahdd..,,,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-29190970454268824162012-05-20T13:13:22.657-04:002012-05-20T13:13:22.657-04:00ha ha ha ha, angry video game virgins raging. Hila...ha ha ha ha, angry video game virgins raging. Hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-70252898554177840662012-04-09T14:34:57.777-04:002012-04-09T14:34:57.777-04:00Thinking about it, Kusoru's actually bringing ...Thinking about it, Kusoru's actually bringing a lot to the table by playing underused characters, and making for a better variety of fights.<br /><br />However the guy who wrote this is a complete twat and needs to be punched in the face. What a weeaboo dickrider.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-52485555402405021242012-03-19T22:44:11.421-04:002012-03-19T22:44:11.421-04:00Since everyone is anonymous, I'll have to quot...Since everyone is anonymous, I'll have to quote the comment I want to directly respond to:<br /><br />"<i>Sigh, ok OP, let me explain FRXV for you. Kusoru did not win based on skill. He won based on technicality. How many people play against good RR/Joe's/SOME Frank Wests?</i>"<br /><br />A technicality, because Americans didn't know most of Kusoru's characters? Do you put an asterisk beside any tournament won where one player knew something that another player didn't?<br /><br />The lack of knowledge, to me, is arguably indicative of a "play to win" attitude over "play to enjoy the game and have fun".<br /><br />The American players didn't know what Rocket could do because they didn't have experience against good Rocket players. But why didn't they have experience against good Rocket players? Saying "they didn't have time to learn" is a bit of a cheat.<br /><br />The implication is that they didn't have experience against good Rocket players because Rocket wasn't seen as a good enough character to win with. The implication is that the better American players were focused on winning over just having fun with the game. They weren't going to put the time into Rocket when there were surer and more accepted options. Of course, with no good player serious at learning Rocket, the other serious players didn't get experience playing good Rockets.<br /><br />So America shot itself in the foot. When a good Rocket showed up, they didn't have the knowledge to deal with it at the time. Given time, they'd either figure out how to overcome it or to bring it into their play styles, but the point is why they didn't encounter it before the tournament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-58218847062403725532012-03-19T15:36:17.803-04:002012-03-19T15:36:17.803-04:00everyone saying garbage like, "stop sucking J...everyone saying garbage like, "stop sucking JP's cock" and "your writing style sucks" sounds super butt-hurt with the ad hominem attacks. u mad ur game sucks and a kusoge god exposed you all. stay free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-68209680786080312152012-03-18T16:42:04.517-04:002012-03-18T16:42:04.517-04:00I don't think anyone denies MvC3 as not broken...I don't think anyone denies MvC3 as not broken or ass, I think every top player has said it at least once. It's just America's favorite crazy as fuck past time. It's nearly a tradition, embedded in our culture. <br /><br />You come off as weeaboo as fuck and after looking around your blog it just reassures that impression. I have no idea what your overall impression for American players or American people in general, but I'm getting an overall negative tone from your post. I think you need to get out more and I think you knew that when you wrote this or you wouldn't have to list your participation in majors and your '09er Evo status. <br /><br />Step outside, but don't just stand there. Step outside and talk to people and not just to communicate about the topic on hand, but to get to know the person and share an understand. This is something so simple, yet has been practically loss for some people in this day and age. <br /><br />Your service has been disconnected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-68044391621567278992012-03-18T16:21:22.126-04:002012-03-18T16:21:22.126-04:00Jesus crhist dude, could you suck Japan's cock...Jesus crhist dude, could you suck Japan's cock while jerking off to hentai anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-82966305635655448022012-03-18T16:21:10.975-04:002012-03-18T16:21:10.975-04:00Jesus crhist dude, could you suck Japan's cock...Jesus crhist dude, could you suck Japan's cock while jerking off to hentai anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-28581772607038668292012-03-12T11:02:06.729-04:002012-03-12T11:02:06.729-04:00So much salt. Only people to blame are yourselves ...So much salt. Only people to blame are yourselves for putting so much nationalism on the line over a video game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-16903747338568401342012-03-11T08:53:52.932-04:002012-03-11T08:53:52.932-04:00Wow, I have never read an article written by someo...Wow, I have never read an article written by someone who had Japan's cock shoved so deep down their throat until now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-89492622797263592622012-03-10T20:55:50.319-05:002012-03-10T20:55:50.319-05:00Sigh, ok OP, let me explain FRXV for you. Kusoru d...Sigh, ok OP, let me explain FRXV for you. Kusoru did not win based on skill. He won based on technicality. How many people play against good RR/Joe's/SOME Frank Wests?<br /><br />If people actually played these guys, the results wouldn't have been so revealing.<br /><br />Kusoru played a good game. I'll give him that. However, thinking that it wasn't primarily due to unknown tech is delusional. The cultural mumbo jumbo is just brain masturbation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-59591030327551676522012-03-08T21:25:35.755-05:002012-03-08T21:25:35.755-05:00this writing is unbelievably horrific. buy a copy...this writing is unbelievably horrific. buy a copy of strunk and white, some Flannery O'Connor letters, or a Sunday New York Times. And read it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-79567033578896144692012-03-08T15:02:43.995-05:002012-03-08T15:02:43.995-05:00Kusoru isn't coming back, because hipsters are...Kusoru isn't coming back, because hipsters are pussies. <br /><br />I also agree with the guy who said you are a pretentious douche.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-71800744664258448662012-03-08T13:31:31.181-05:002012-03-08T13:31:31.181-05:00Such a fucking pretentious article and poster... i...Such a fucking pretentious article and poster... it reminds me of Tim Rogers stuff... wait, are you Tim???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-43331003099856658712012-03-08T12:46:20.547-05:002012-03-08T12:46:20.547-05:00"it is a terrible "anime" game, bec..."it is a terrible "anime" game, because we are somehow losing not to a legitimate player like Tokido fighting on our terms with our tech, but an illegitimate player like Kusoru fighting on his own terms with his own tech"<br /><br />NO. also wrong. It is a GREAT game because you have so many levels of tech. Not just the...'this is how you win with Ryu' tech.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-8931195515252786852012-03-08T12:42:02.427-05:002012-03-08T12:42:02.427-05:00"Tatsunoko vs Capcom, which was kusoge to the..."Tatsunoko vs Capcom, which was kusoge to the Japanese cause it was broken as shit, and was kusoge to the Americans because it wasn't named Marvel vs Capcom."<br /><br />NO, wrong. It was kusoge to Americans because it was on the Wii.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-38956194995943394482012-03-08T11:34:57.271-05:002012-03-08T11:34:57.271-05:00I loved this! I think more people here in the US s...I loved this! I think more people here in the US should play for the love of games. The arrogance of the competitive fighting game community is a turn off. I continue to play the games I like with friends. I suppose I'm an American "kusoge" player. <br /><br />I loved watching Kusoru at Final Round for this reason alone! Best of luck int the future!Arttronikhttp://www.arttronik.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-76231379899381316932012-03-07T23:20:28.426-05:002012-03-07T23:20:28.426-05:00I think the competitive FGC tends to forget that e...I think the competitive FGC tends to forget that even though fighting games are fairly niche, they are a very small percentage of the people who buy them. That's true for any e-sport. From a developer stand-point you're going to make a game that's going to be appreciated by that larger percentage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-9826473588511181222012-03-07T17:41:44.081-05:002012-03-07T17:41:44.081-05:00I think "broken" is a better translation...I think "broken" is a better translation than "shitty."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-49867978224596888822012-03-07T15:26:43.816-05:002012-03-07T15:26:43.816-05:00Mr. Anon here again lol
Good points with that las...Mr. Anon here again lol<br /><br />Good points with that last post we really should avoid using anyone's personal views and attitude toward a game to validate or invalidate our enjoyment of said game, even if he did win a major.<br /><br />It's mostly just people subconsciously trying to evangelize their own favorite games to others lol. I could jump on every blog and do the same thing with Virtua Fighter. So yeah take care guys lol!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-81391970904830919802012-03-07T13:32:03.222-05:002012-03-07T13:32:03.222-05:00i don't know why people have such a hard time ...i don't know why people have such a hard time differentiating between popularity and status. <br /><br />macdonalds is shit food. everyone knows it, yet it's eaten by BILLIONS every week. everyone knows it's shit, but it tastes good and people eat it. <br /><br />same with shit games. 'everyone' knows marvel is a shit game, yet it's played by tons of players. <br /><br />just because it's a shitty game, doesn't make it an un-fun game... and people like kusoru doesn't play a shitty game that's also not fun - otherwise they wouldn't be spending hours and hours trying to figure it out. <br /><br />so stop being so defensive about trying to take marvel 'to the next level'. it's a shitty ass game and leave it at that, and have fun playing it if you love it. <br /><br />it doesn't make someone a shitty person for playing a shitty game or having fun with it. but it does mean that people who are aware that it's a shitty game and still play it are 1. more objective and self-aware, 2. possibly have a more passionate drive than others. <br /><br />i think that's what the original article was getting at instead of all the weird japan/US distinction some of you guys might have read too much into than needed.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02317878626206076106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-87790409672330311052012-03-07T11:22:00.438-05:002012-03-07T11:22:00.438-05:00I used to think Marvel was a bad game until I play...I used to think Marvel was a bad game until I played rreally goos players. Cheap strategies are usually gimmicks and can be beaten by solid play. game knowledge is really important in this game since there are some silly strategies. You need good reaction time and very fast decision making to be good at this game. I don't think it's bad. I just think it's really hard to be solid in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-63989323480306579872012-03-07T11:20:03.951-05:002012-03-07T11:20:03.951-05:00The US absolutely has a kusoge scene: look at the ...The US absolutely has a kusoge scene: look at the attitude of the XvsSF scene. It's a niche community that plays for the love of the game. The people who are the faces of that scene generally have a pretty general, fun-loving outlook, there's far less salt and egos on the line.<br /><br />I don't see this as a US vs. Japan attitude issue so much as the most serious competitive people in each country gravitate to different games, and kusoge attracts people who don't want that high stakes rivalry atmosphere. It isn't that people get salty when they lose, they're happy to see someone else do some absurd combo to them because the game is totally busted.<br /><br />Given the size of the Marvel scene in this country, I don't think we'll ever see that sort of niche crowd gain prominence.spankministerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12659875648928569201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6647230.post-29346817642766980872012-03-07T10:26:32.074-05:002012-03-07T10:26:32.074-05:00Man I wrote this at 4AM before work while half asl...Man I wrote this at 4AM before work while half asleep and then fubar blows me up.<br /><br />Anyway, to address whatever:<br />How popular a game is has nothing to do with whether it is kusoge or not.<br />Kusoge can be a term of endearment, and it can be a term of insult, it works both ways.<br /><br />I live in NJ (used to be NY). I've gone to EVO since 2009. I went to FRXIII. I've been to pretty much every NEC. Most tournaments I've gone to have not been for a big stage game, but I totally enjoy playing the games I go for, kusoge or no kusoge. My own personal sliding scale of "legitimacy" is irrelevant to anyone else's scale, but I'm pretty confident about Marvel being viewed as kusoge in Japan.<br /><br />To d3v, this is true.<br />No one knew about log trap.<br />Quite honestly I thought kusoru would get blown up in the USA, though I was rooting for him.<br />And teams seemed to confirm it, as we saw ranmasama OCV team Japan handily.<br />I don't mean to imply that USA lost because they didn't love the game more.<br />This post (please don't call it an article it feels bad) was more an attempt to explain where kusoru comes from, and why he plays.<br />It was more in response to the reports that he was dodging MMs.<br />With all the MM seekers who wanted matches to "prove" something or "get revenge" for something it probably came off as a contrast to what he was expecting, that is MMs "for fun."<br />He has as much pride as our best players, but it's just a different sort of pride.<br />Like if you watched Final Round's streams of not Marvel games, lots of people spamming why their game is "better" or whatever.<br />To kusoru, it honestly doesn't matter.<br />He doesn't care if Marvel is "better as a game" than AE 2012, Tekken, SC5, etc.<br />He just loves the game for what it is.<br /><br />The last two lines are the result of my personal bias, and me struggling to find some way to end this post. If I wanted to feed you some garbage I would say that I feel they totally apply to SFXT's release, and all the people playing it for pop off reasons or staged rivalry reasons or esports reasons. But really it was me being tired and wanting to close this shit out.Sibbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08807272028402375596noreply@blogger.com